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EP101 SaaS isn't ready for AI-driven business models

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In this episode, Griffin Parry, CEO of Madduck, explores the evolving landscape of SaaS pricing, especially in the context of AI-driven features. We discuss the shift from traditional seat-based models to usage and outcome-based pricing, the operational challenges of implementing these models, and how companies can strategically navigate this transformation.

Key topics

  1. Shift from seat-based to usage and outcome-based pricing

  2. Operational challenges of implementing new pricing models

  3. Impact of AI on SaaS value and pricing strategies

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction to SaaS pricing evolution

  • 00:12 Griffin Parry’s background and expertise

  • 01:40 Limitations of legacy billing systems

  • 02:34 AI’s impact on SaaS valuation and pricing

  • 05:02 Adoption of usage-based pricing before and after AI

  • 07:13 Cost modeling for AI-driven features

  • 08:01 Outcome-based pricing and its challenges

  • 14:41 Operational bottlenecks in legacy systems

  • 19:01 Strategies for convincing stakeholders to change pricing

  • 22:04 Meta’s approach to pricing and monetization

  • 24:15 When to invest in a pricing strategist

  • 25:52 How Meta’s pricing enables competitive advantage

  • 27:28 First principles of pricing experimentation

  • 29:23 Market trends in B2B and B2C pricing

  • 32:15 Future of B2C pricing models

  • 33:32 Closing remarks and resources

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