Summary
In this episode of the Product Coalition podcast, host Jay Stansell speaks with Ali Havishji about the critical relationship between engineers and product managers. They discuss the importance of aligning on outcomes, building trust, and effective communication strategies. Ali emphasizes the shift from traditional product requirement documents to prototypes, the need for measurable engineering performance, and the significance of mentorship for new engineers. The conversation highlights the necessity of empathy and collaboration in achieving successful product outcomes.
Takeaways
The relationship between engineers and product managers is crucial for achieving business outcomes.
Transparency and trust are foundational for effective collaboration.
Product managers should frame problems clearly rather than providing solutions.
Prototypes can serve as a more effective tool than traditional PRDs.
Measuring engineering performance should focus on tangible metrics like bug counts and release frequency.
Effective communication is key to building strong relationships between teams.
Empathy towards engineers can foster a more cohesive team environment.
Mentorship is vital for new engineers to understand their role beyond coding.
Regular rituals and meetings can enhance team alignment and accountability.
Understanding the business context helps engineers align their work with company goals.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Engineer-Product Relationship
05:16 Understanding Outcomes in Engineering and Product Management
11:44 Building Trust Between Engineers and Product Managers
17:27 Effective Communication Strategies for Collaboration
22:14 The Shift from PRDs to Prototypes
28:16 Measuring Engineering Performance and Quality
34:43 Setting Expectations for Team Collaboration
40:53 Mentorship for New Engineers










